Junk

lkrsardis · #1 (**permalink**) 11-19-2008, 11:49 PM

We loaded up the van this morning with a BUNCH of old crap today. About two more loads will make me a happy camper. Hangin on to old stuff is so effing ignit. If you keep the old stuff around that is OBSOLETE, you are shooting yourself in the foot for a new sale. Thanks Mike, REALLY for not finding that dev. unit for me. We are now selling a new machine. Trash the old stuff folks, it just gives the customer an excuse to hang on to ollllllllld ass equipment.

Lostintexas · #2 (**permalink**) 11-20-2008, 09:14 AM

I dug through every box we had man. The only ones I had were already tanked. They are either locked solid or the cycliinder looks like someone took sand paper to it.

lkrsardis · #3 (**permalink**) 11-20-2008, 11:52 AM

Thanks Mike. We ordered a new machine for them today.

Lostintexas · #4 (**permalink**) 11-20-2008, 12:15 PM

3570 fully loaded?

lkrsardis · #5 (**permalink**) 11-20-2008, 01:53 PM

ir3530 with feeder and finisher. I tried to sell the 3570 loaded but the customer just want's a copier. I think I've sold 2 more 3530's today at 2 different school's. Replacing an ir330 and 3300, both with a million plus clicks.

lkrsardis · #6 (**permalink**) 11-20-2008, 03:03 PM

Just sent a qoute on an ir1023if to replace another NP6230. WOOHOO!!!!!

Lostintexas · #7 (**permalink**) 11-20-2008, 04:10 PM

nice,a 1023 to replace a 6230 though?

lkrsardis · #8 (**permalink**) 11-20-2008, 04:18 PM

The 6230 is more machine than they need believe it or not. It has 44K on it.

pjdbm · #9 (**permalink**) 11-20-2008, 04:22 PM

I have not seen a 1023 but my Canon ip guys says its a great machine. Hell I was impressed with the low end ic6530, that bitch was heavy too

lkrsardis · #10 (**permalink**) 11-20-2008, 04:26 PM

The ir1023 and the ic6530 are the same except the ic version uses an all in one toner cart. The ir version is a dealer only machine.

pjdbm · #11 (**permalink**) 11-20-2008, 07:55 PM

Nice, I get fact. Re. for $190.00

lkrsardis · #12 (**permalink**) 11-21-2008, 08:09 AM

We sell those also because sometimes price is the factor. The Boss hates to give a sale to the Big Box.

irtek · #13 (**permalink**) 11-21-2008, 08:19 AM

I have not sold any of the 3530/3570/4570 models yet. I heard they were having a lot of jamming and toner leaking problems. Have those problems been solved? I've got a customer with an IR400 loaded that I need to upgrade and a 4570 be ideal, but I don't want to put in a machine that is be a problem. So how are they running?

pjdbm · #14 (**permalink**) 11-21-2008, 08:28 AM

Go with any 5000 series, they wont let you down

irtek · #15 (**permalink**) 11-21-2008, 08:36 AM

The customer is only running 10K a month and I don't like to place the 5000 models running less than 20K a month because of the drum cost liabilty.

pjdbm · #16 (**permalink**) 11-21-2008, 08:52 AM

If you install anything less you will be going through a drum and a half each year... Plus fusers...

Canons under 50cpm are very costly in all inclusive contracts man, I started winning these when I installed Kyocera machines. Drums last 500k also thats when the pm cycle is. I install Kyoceras and Copstars and forget the customers exist.

On the other hand, I have Canon ir 3320's that eat hard drives,drums,fusers like crazy.

But if you must the 3570 looks pretty good.

irtek · #17 (**permalink**) 11-21-2008, 09:27 AM

That is true as long as nothing happens to the drum. With the smaller machine running 10k a month I feel confident that I will get 60 to 70k life from the drum. Cost .0017 to .002. If something happen to the 5000 drum in 3 yrs it's $1250 for 360,000 copies or .0035 per copy. I just like the sure profit (even if it is a little less) than taking a gamble on the expensive drum.

pjdbm · #18 (**permalink**) 11-21-2008, 09:29 AM

I do not include that drum on any of my contracts.